Mary Lyall

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name
Mary Lyall
aka
[Mary Jeffrey, Mary Edna Lyall]
sex
female
access
public
summary
Wife of William Jeffrey, of Foulden, Berwickshire, who as the family accounts have it followed her husband to Canada about 1820 with their children and settled at Cobourg and then near Keene. She died in 1857, aged 83, and is commemorated on the monument of her daughter Catharine and Adam Hall at Little Lake Cemetery, Peterborough. Probably the mother of Mary (Jeffrey) Short and great-grandmother of Ruth (Short) Ellingwood.
born
date
4 May 1774
place
Chirnside, Berwickshire, Scotland
basis
compiled
confidence
probable
sources
[findagrave-jeffrey-family, gravestone-mary-lyall-1857, online-tree-wikitree-ellingwood-ancestors, online-tree-familysearch-short-pattullo]
note
Find a Grave's date, which fits her age on the monument, 83, at her death in May 1857. WikiTree has 4 May 1773 at Chirnside (the place from there), FamilySearch 1774. WikiTree and FamilySearch call her "Mary Edna," which her monument does not.
died
date
6 May 1857
place
Peterborough, Canada West
basis
compiled
confidence
probable
sources
[findagrave-jeffrey-family, online-tree-wikitree-ellingwood-ancestors, gravestone-mary-lyall-1857]
note
Find a Grave's date; WikiTree, from Ward Skinner's compilation, has 26 May 1857. The face of the monument in the photographs gives her age, 83, but no date.
buried
place
Little Lake Cemetery, Peterborough, Ontario
basis
documented
confidence
proven
sources
[gravestone-mary-lyall-1857]
residences
date
c. 1820
place
Cobourg, Northumberland County, Upper Canada
basis
tradition
confidence
probable
sources
[online-tree-wikitree-ellingwood-ancestors]
note
Followed her husband and children to Canada about 1820 and settled first at Cobourg.

Great-grandmother of Ruth (Short) Ellingwood, as the family accounts have it. Her marble obelisk at Little Lake Cemetery, Peterborough, reads "Sacred to the memory of Mary Lyall, wife of William Jeffrey, aged 83 years" (record). Below her on the same face is "Isabella Hall, dau. of Adam & Catharine Hall, died June 16 1922, aged 85 years," her granddaughter. The obelisk is very probably the Halls' family monument: another face reads "In memoriam of Adam Hall, died Oct. 4, 1881, aged 77 years; also Catharine Jeffrey, wife of the above, died Feb. 26, 1882, aged 75 years." She very probably spent her widowhood with her daughter's family at Peterborough; Find a Grave notes that there is no evidence her husband is buried there.

Her children, as Find a Grave and Skinner's compilation give them: Andrew (1800-1863), born at Foulden, mayor of Cobourg; Isabella (1801-1885), Mrs. George Gillespie of Keene; Jean (1803-1887), Mrs. Grigg; Catharine (1806-1882), who married Adam Hall in 1832 and had at least eight children; and Mary (1809-1883), Mrs. John Short (source). These are John Graham's "five children, one boy and four girls." Find a Grave adds a second son, William (1802-1879), of King Township, whom family researchers doubt.

Family tradition, in Ward Skinner's Descendants of William Jeffrey, has her following her husband to Canada with their five children, settling first at Cobourg, where the Lyalls came too, and then near Keene (source).

Research: Ruth Short's ancestry: the archive, the Ancestry tree, WikiTree and FamilySearch compared.

Open questions

  • Her baptism at Chirnside, and her parents. The FamilySearch and WikiTree trees give them as Joseph Lyal (d. 1799) and Jean Simpson, married at Bunkle and Preston in 1763; no record seen; not linked.
  • Her death record (6 or 26 May 1857), and the other faces of the monument.
  • Whether William (1802-1879) was her son, against Graham's "one boy."
  1. ---
  2. name: Mary Lyall
  3. aka: [Mary Jeffrey, Mary Edna Lyall]
  4. sex: female
  5. access: public
  6. summary: >-
  7. Wife of William Jeffrey, of Foulden, Berwickshire, who as the family accounts have it followed her
  8. husband to Canada about 1820 with their children and settled at Cobourg and then near Keene. She
  9. died in 1857, aged 83, and is commemorated on the monument of her daughter Catharine and Adam Hall
  10. at Little Lake Cemetery, Peterborough. Probably the mother of Mary (Jeffrey) Short and
  11. great-grandmother of Ruth (Short) Ellingwood.
  12. born:
  13. date: 4 May 1774
  14. place: Chirnside, Berwickshire, Scotland
  15. basis: compiled
  16. confidence: probable
  17. sources: [findagrave-jeffrey-family, gravestone-mary-lyall-1857, online-tree-wikitree-ellingwood-ancestors, online-tree-familysearch-short-pattullo]
  18. note: 'Find a Grave''s date, which fits her age on the monument, 83, at her death in May 1857. WikiTree has 4 May 1773 at Chirnside (the place from there), FamilySearch 1774. WikiTree and FamilySearch call her "Mary Edna," which her monument does not.'
  19. died:
  20. date: 6 May 1857
  21. place: Peterborough, Canada West
  22. basis: compiled
  23. confidence: probable
  24. sources: [findagrave-jeffrey-family, online-tree-wikitree-ellingwood-ancestors, gravestone-mary-lyall-1857]
  25. note: Find a Grave's date; WikiTree, from Ward Skinner's compilation, has 26 May 1857. The face of the monument in the photographs gives her age, 83, but no date.
  26. buried:
  27. place: Little Lake Cemetery, Peterborough, Ontario
  28. basis: documented
  29. confidence: proven
  30. sources: [gravestone-mary-lyall-1857]
  31. residences:
  32. - date: "c. 1820"
  33. place: Cobourg, Northumberland County, Upper Canada
  34. basis: tradition
  35. confidence: probable
  36. sources: [online-tree-wikitree-ellingwood-ancestors]
  37. note: "Followed her husband and children to Canada about 1820 and settled first at Cobourg."
  38. ---
  40. Great-grandmother of Ruth (Short) Ellingwood, as the family accounts have it. Her marble obelisk at
  41. Little Lake Cemetery, Peterborough, reads "Sacred to the memory of Mary Lyall, wife of William Jeffrey,
  42. aged 83 years" ([record](/files/sources/gravestone-mary-lyall-1857/)). Below her on the same face is
  43. "Isabella Hall, dau. of Adam & Catharine Hall, died June 16 1922, aged 85 years," her granddaughter.
  44. The obelisk is very probably the Halls' family monument: another face reads "In memoriam of Adam
  45. Hall, died Oct. 4, 1881, aged 77 years; also Catharine Jeffrey, wife of the above, died Feb. 26, 1882,
  46. aged 75 years." She very probably spent her widowhood with her daughter's family at Peterborough;
  47. Find a Grave notes that there is no evidence her husband is buried there.
  49. Her children, as Find a Grave and Skinner's compilation give them:
  50. [Andrew](/people/andrew-jeffrey-1800/) (1800-1863), born at Foulden, mayor of Cobourg;
  51. [Isabella](/people/isabella-jeffrey-1801/) (1801-1885), Mrs. George Gillespie of Keene;
  52. [Jean](/people/jean-jeffrey-1803/) (1803-1887), Mrs. Grigg; [Catharine](/people/catharine-jeffrey-1806/)
  53. (1806-1882), who married Adam Hall in 1832 and had at least eight children; and Mary (1809-1883), Mrs.
  54. John Short ([source](/files/sources/findagrave-jeffrey-family/)). These are John Graham's "five children,
  55. one boy and four girls." Find a Grave adds a second son, [William](/people/william-jeffrey-1802/)
  56. (1802-1879), of King Township, whom family researchers doubt.
  58. Family tradition, in Ward Skinner's *Descendants of William Jeffrey*, has her following her husband
  59. to Canada with their five children, settling first at Cobourg, where the Lyalls came too, and then near
  60. Keene ([source](/files/sources/online-tree-wikitree-ellingwood-ancestors/)).
  62. Research: `research/ellingwood/Short_Pattullo_Comparison.md`.
  64. ## Open questions
  66. - Her baptism at Chirnside, and her parents. The FamilySearch and WikiTree trees give them as Joseph
  67. Lyal (d. 1799) and Jean Simpson, married at Bunkle and Preston in 1763; no record seen; not linked.
  68. - Her death record (6 or 26 May 1857), and the other faces of the monument.
  69. - Whether William (1802-1879) was her son, against Graham's "one boy."
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