James Bate
Came to New England with his family in 1635, embarking in the Elizabeth of London on 17 April, aged 53, with a certificate of conformity to the Church of England; Patience Foster and her son Hopestill were on the same list. Probably a son of James Bate of Lydd, and probably the father of Mary (Bate) Foster.
Life
- 1582Bornbp. 2 Dec 1582, Lydd, Kent, England
Watkins's pedigree, from the Lydd register (NEHGR 51:270). Aged 53 on the Elizabeth list of April 1635.
compiledprobable - 1603Married Alice Bate13 Sept 1603
By licence, to "Alice Glover of Saltwood" (Watkins, NEHGR 51:270).
compiledprobable - 1655Died1655
Savage (1:138) and Watkins give 1655. His will is dated 22 Nov 1655, with a codicil of 26 Nov (Bates Bulletin).
Family
- Father
- James Bate
The research places James Bate of Lydd as the grandfather of Mary (Bate) Foster.
compiledprobableSources
- Watkins, Bate of Lydd, New England Historical and Genealogical Register 51
- Reasoning:
research/low/Low_Line_Research.md
- Mother
- Mary Martincompiledprobable
Pedigree
Notes
Of Lydd, Kent, and Dorchester. Came to New England in 1635 with his family. On 17 April 1635 “JAMES BATE 53”, with Alice 52, Lyddia 20, Marie 17, Margaret 12 and James 9, was embarked in the Elizabeth of London, William Stagg master, with a certificate “from the Ministers & Justices of the Peace of their Conformitie to the Church of England” (Hotten). Patience Foster and her son Hopestill were on the same list, and the Milletts sailed in the same ship. His brother Clement Bate came on the same ship and settled at Hingham (Watkins). He was made a freeman on 7 Dec 1636 (“James Bate,” Records of Mass. Bay 1:372), was a Dorchester selectman, ruling elder of the Dorchester church, and a deputy at the General Court of May 1640 (Records of Mass. Bay 1:288).
The Bates of Lydd were jurats and bailiffs. A brass in All Saints, Lydd, to Thomas Bate, jurat (d. 1578), reads “Full thre skore yeres and twelve … A Juratt of thys towne was I And Thomas Bate by name. Fower chyldren now my place supply” (NEHGR 51:268). In Watkins’s pedigree this Thomas was a brother of James’s grandfather John Bate. Mollie traces the Bates of Lydd back three more generations; that has not been checked.
His son Richard Bate stayed in Lydd. Richard’s will (19 June 1656) left “unto my mother Alice Bate in New England twelve pounds yearly,” and his Lydd stone reads “Here lieth the body of Richard Bate, gent, son of James and Alice Bate sometime of this towne,” adding that he had been “bayliff of this Corporation six times” (NEHGR 51:268).
Smallhope Bigg’s 1638 will left 20s each to “my kinsfolk Thomas Bate, of Lydd, James Bate, Clement Bate … all which are now resident in New England,” and John Bigg’s will names “My cousin James Bate of New England” (Waters, Gleanings 1:21-22).
His will of 22 Nov 1655 left his lands and goods to “sonne Richard Bate of Lid Towne in Kent in Old England,” £100 each to the three children of his son James, and his Dorchester house, orchard and planting land to his grandson James Foster, his wife Alice to have the use of the house (Bates Bulletin 1).
Open questions
- The Great Migration sketch of James Bate has not been read.
- His mother: the colonial tree marks Mary Martin(?) as unproven, since Watkins queries her surname; the page has the link as compiled, probable. The doubt Watkins raises is about her surname.
Mollie's typescript
Mollie says he came in the Elizabeth in 1635 with all his family but his son Richard, was a cousin of Patience Foster, and at Dorchester was ruling elder, selectman and deputy; he died in 1655.
James Bate (or Bates) came with his wife and family, all excepting one son, Richard, in the Elizabeth of London, Wm. Stagg Master. ... James Bated was ruling elder of the church, selectman for several years and a Deputy to the General Court 1640.
p. 121 →
Checked against the records
- ProvenThe Fosters and the Bates sailed on the Milletts' ship
True. On 17 April 1635 James Bate, 53, his wife Alice and their children, and Patience Foster, 40, her son Hopestill, 14, and her mother Rachel Bigg, were embarked in the Elizabeth, William Stagg master, the ship that carried the Milletts (Hotten's Original Lists).
Read it in the book, p. 171 → - DisprovenMost of the passengers on the Elizabeth were ministers and justices
A misreading of the list. The Fosters and Bates brought certificates "from the Ministers & Justices of the Peace of their Conformitie to the Church of England" (Hotten). The ministers and justices stayed in England and vouched for the passengers.
Read it in the book, p. 171 →
Connections
- Small world