Sally Ginn

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name
Sally Ginn
aka
[Sally Genn, Sally Tyler]
sex
female
access
public
summary
Probably the wife of Rowland Tyler, married 28 Mar 1804, and the mother of Hannah Read Tyler, who married Nathan Low. Her parents are not known for certain; she was possibly a daughter of Capt. James Ginn and Ann Riggs.
born
date
20 Feb 1784
place
Orrington, Maine
basis
compiled
confidence
probable
sources
[book-brigham-1912-tyler-genealogy, online-tree-wikitree-tyler-ginn-profiles]
note
Brigham, Mollie Pfeiffer and WikiTree agree; WikiTree places it at Orrington, Maine. No birth record seen.
died
date
12 Mar 1834
place
Dixmont, Maine
basis
compiled
confidence
probable
sources
[book-brigham-1912-tyler-genealogy, online-tree-wikitree-tyler-ginn-profiles]
note
WikiTree (Ginn-138) gives the same day, "at age 50", with no record cited. The place is her husband's home: Rowland Tyler lived at Dixmont until about 1840.
residences
date
Feb 1804
place
Bucksport, Maine
basis
compiled
confidence
probable
sources
[online-tree-wikitree-tyler-ginn-profiles]
note
WikiTree, Ginn-138 (wikitree.com/wiki/Ginn-138): "she and Rowland Tyler were marr pub." at Bucksport on 25 Feb 1804; the Ginn family had been at Bucksport since 1800.
father
id
james-ginn-1745
basis
compiled
confidence
possible
sources
[online-tree-wikitree-tyler-ginn-profiles, book-upton-1963-ginns-and-their-kin, book-bangor-historical-magazine]
research
research/low/Tyler_Ginn_Line_Research.md
note
Mollie Pfeiffer's Ginn chart; Upton (1963) has her among Capt. James's twelve children; WikiTree (Ginn-138) lists "ix. Sally Genn; b. 20 Feb 1784 at Orrington" with no record cited. Buck's "six sons and six daughters" (BHM 1:105) works only if she is counted (inference). Porter's list of James's children (BHM 4:237-238) omits her. Unresolved.
alternatives
name
William H. Ginn, "a shipbuilder of Ellsworth"
claimed_by
Brigham 1912
confidence
possible
note
No such man has been found in any record. The name looks like a garbling of William R. Ginn (b. 1786), Capt. James's son and "the best ship-builder on the river," who was too young to be her father.
mother
id
ann-riggs-1747
basis
compiled
confidence
possible
sources
[online-tree-wikitree-tyler-ginn-profiles]
research
research/low/Tyler_Ginn_Line_Research.md
note
Follows the father; unresolved for the same reason.

Wife of Rowland Tyler, married 28 Mar 1804 (Brigham), and mother of Hannah Read Tyler.

Her parentage is the one conflict that runs through the whole Ginn side. Mollie Pfeiffer's Ginn chart makes her a daughter of Capt. James Ginn and Ann Riggs; Brigham's Tyler Genealogy (1912, vol. 1 pp. 220-221, no. 701) calls her "daughter of William H. Ginn, a shipbuilder of Ellsworth, Maine." Both give her birth as 20 Feb 1784. The research follows Mollie provisionally, so the Ginn, Genn, Riggs, Millett, Greenaway, Wheeler, Yeoman, Allen, Goodale, Stanwood and Messer ancestry here stands or falls with this link.

Two ties support Mollie's version (inference): her sister Anna (if she is James's daughter) married Josiah Brewer in 1793, and Josiah's sister Lavinia married Ebenezer Tyler, Rowland's brother, in 1799 (BHM 1). So the Ginn, Brewer and Tyler families were already linked when Sally married.

WikiTree's profile of Capt. James Ginn (Ginn-138) lists her as his ninth child, "Sally Genn; b. 20 Feb 1784 at Orrington, Penobscot, Maine," and gives her death as 12 Mar 1834 "at age 50"; it cites no record for her. The same profile, an imported tree, has the intention at Bucksport, 25 Feb 1804 ("she and Rowland Tyler were marr pub."), again with no specific source for the line. Upton's The Ginns and Their Kin (1963) also counts her among Capt. James's twelve children. Porter's list of his children (BHM 4:237-238) leaves her out, but Buck says Ginn had "six sons and six daughters" (BHM 1:105), and that count works only if she is included (inference).

Open questions

  • Who was her father? The Bucksport intention of 25 Feb 1804, the 1804 marriage record, the Orrington town records of the Ginn children's births (1776-90), or a Ginn probate (James Ginn, Hancock County, 1818) naming her would settle it.
  • The colonial tree marks her link to James Ginn and Ann Riggs as inference and says Brigham's "William H. Ginn" "cannot be right," being a garbling of her brother William R. Ginn (b. 1786). The page keeps the link compiled and possible, with Brigham's reading as a possible alternative, since her father is an open research task (Questions to decide).
  1. ---
  2. name: Sally Ginn
  3. aka: [Sally Genn, Sally Tyler]
  4. sex: female
  5. access: public
  6. summary: >-
  7. Probably the wife of Rowland Tyler, married 28 Mar 1804, and the mother of Hannah Read Tyler,
  8. who married Nathan Low. Her parents are not known for certain; she was possibly a daughter of
  9. Capt. James Ginn and Ann Riggs.
  10. born:
  11. date: 20 Feb 1784
  12. place: Orrington, Maine
  13. basis: compiled
  14. confidence: probable
  15. sources: [book-brigham-1912-tyler-genealogy, online-tree-wikitree-tyler-ginn-profiles]
  16. note: Brigham, Mollie Pfeiffer and WikiTree agree; WikiTree places it at Orrington, Maine. No birth record seen.
  17. died:
  18. date: 12 Mar 1834
  19. place: Dixmont, Maine
  20. basis: compiled
  21. confidence: probable
  22. sources: [book-brigham-1912-tyler-genealogy, online-tree-wikitree-tyler-ginn-profiles]
  23. note: "WikiTree (Ginn-138) gives the same day, \"at age 50\", with no record cited. The place is her husband's home: Rowland Tyler lived at Dixmont until about 1840."
  24. residences:
  25. - date: "Feb 1804"
  26. place: Bucksport, Maine
  27. basis: compiled
  28. confidence: probable
  29. sources: [online-tree-wikitree-tyler-ginn-profiles]
  30. note: "WikiTree, Ginn-138 (wikitree.com/wiki/Ginn-138): \"she and Rowland Tyler were marr pub.\" at Bucksport on 25 Feb 1804; the Ginn family had been at Bucksport since 1800."
  31. father:
  32. id: james-ginn-1745
  33. basis: compiled
  34. confidence: possible
  35. sources: [online-tree-wikitree-tyler-ginn-profiles, book-upton-1963-ginns-and-their-kin, book-bangor-historical-magazine]
  36. research: research/low/Tyler_Ginn_Line_Research.md
  37. note: Mollie Pfeiffer's Ginn chart; Upton (1963) has her among Capt. James's twelve children; WikiTree (Ginn-138) lists "ix. Sally Genn; b. 20 Feb 1784 at Orrington" with no record cited. Buck's "six sons and six daughters" (BHM 1:105) works only if she is counted (inference). Porter's list of James's children (BHM 4:237-238) omits her. Unresolved.
  38. alternatives:
  39. - name: William H. Ginn, "a shipbuilder of Ellsworth"
  40. claimed_by: Brigham 1912
  41. confidence: possible
  42. note: No such man has been found in any record. The name looks like a garbling of William R. Ginn (b. 1786), Capt. James's son and "the best ship-builder on the river," who was too young to be her father.
  43. mother:
  44. id: ann-riggs-1747
  45. basis: compiled
  46. confidence: possible
  47. sources: [online-tree-wikitree-tyler-ginn-profiles]
  48. research: research/low/Tyler_Ginn_Line_Research.md
  49. note: Follows the father; unresolved for the same reason.
  50. ---
  52. Wife of Rowland Tyler, married 28 Mar 1804 (Brigham), and mother of Hannah Read Tyler.
  54. Her parentage is the one conflict that runs through the whole Ginn side. Mollie
  55. Pfeiffer's Ginn chart makes her a daughter of Capt. James Ginn and Ann Riggs; Brigham's
  56. *Tyler Genealogy* (1912, vol. 1 pp. 220-221, no. 701) calls her "daughter of William H.
  57. Ginn, a shipbuilder of Ellsworth, Maine." Both give her birth as 20 Feb 1784. The
  58. research follows Mollie provisionally, so the Ginn, Genn, Riggs, Millett, Greenaway,
  59. Wheeler, Yeoman, Allen, Goodale, Stanwood and Messer ancestry here stands or falls with
  60. this link.
  62. Two ties support Mollie's version (inference): her sister Anna (if she is James's
  63. daughter) married Josiah Brewer in 1793, and Josiah's sister Lavinia married Ebenezer
  64. Tyler, Rowland's brother, in 1799 (BHM 1). So the Ginn, Brewer and Tyler families were
  65. already linked when Sally married.
  67. WikiTree's profile of Capt. James Ginn (Ginn-138) lists her as his ninth child, "Sally
  68. Genn; b. 20 Feb 1784 at Orrington, Penobscot, Maine," and gives her death as 12 Mar 1834
  69. "at age 50"; it cites no record for her. The same profile, an imported tree, has the
  70. intention at Bucksport, 25 Feb 1804 ("she and Rowland Tyler were marr pub."), again with
  71. no specific source for the line. Upton's *The Ginns and Their Kin* (1963) also counts her
  72. among Capt. James's twelve children. Porter's list of his children (BHM 4:237-238) leaves
  73. her out, but Buck says Ginn had "six sons and six daughters" (BHM 1:105), and that count
  74. works only if she is included (inference).
  76. ## Open questions
  78. - Who was her father? The Bucksport intention of 25 Feb 1804, the 1804 marriage record,
  79. the Orrington town records of the Ginn children's births (1776-90), or a Ginn probate
  80. (James Ginn, Hancock County, 1818) naming her would settle it.
  81. - The colonial tree marks her link to James Ginn and Ann Riggs as inference and says
  82. Brigham's "William H. Ginn" "cannot be right," being a garbling of her brother William R.
  83. Ginn (b. 1786). The page keeps the link compiled and possible, with Brigham's reading as
  84. a possible alternative, since her father is an open research task (`to-decide.md`).
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