Ralph Wanless

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name
Ralph Wanless
aka
[Ralph Wandless]
sex
male
access
public
summary
Blacksmith, Revolutionary soldier and settler of the Hills above Huntersville, in what is now Pocahontas County, West Virginia, remembered as a genius at the anvil. Born at Newcastle upon Tyne about 1756-7, he came with his widowed mother to Augusta County, Virginia, in 1772, scouted from Clover Lick and served at Norfolk in the Revolution, married Lucretia Nichols in 1788 and died in 1842. Probably the father of Elizabeth (Wanless) Hatten.
born
date
c. 1756-7
place
Newcastle upon Tyne, England
basis
compiled
confidence
probable
sources
[article-dar-magazine-1914-wanless, typescript-norman-descendants-ralph-wanless, online-tree-ellingwood-ancestry, book-craig-1963-reverend-john-craig]
note
"a native of England and 75 years old" at his pension declaration of 7 Aug 1832. Norman and the Ancestry tree have 28 Mar 1756 at Newcastle upon Tyne; Craig (1963) "about 1759."
died
date
26 Jul 1842
place
Pocahontas County, Virginia (now West Virginia)
basis
compiled
confidence
probable
sources
[typescript-norman-descendants-ralph-wanless, online-tree-ellingwood-ancestry]
note
The tree's "Pocahontas, Chesterfield, Virginia" means Pocahontas County. Craig (1963) has both 1824 and 1842.
residences
date
1772
place
Deerfield, Augusta County, Virginia
basis
tradition
confidence
probable
sources
[book-craig-1963-reverend-john-craig]
note
Brought from England by his widowed mother to the Calfpasture at Deerfield, as a boy of about fifteen.
date
1794
place
Pocahontas County, West Virginia
basis
compiled
confidence
probable
sources
[typescript-norman-descendants-ralph-wanless]
note
On the personal property tax lists for the part of Bath County that became Pocahontas, from 1794; the Hills near Huntersville.
events
what
Indian spy, Clover Lick
date
c. 1780
place
Clover Lick, Pocahontas County, West Virginia
sources
[article-dar-magazine-1914-wanless, typescript-norman-descendants-ralph-wanless, book-price-1901-pocahontas-county]
note
He served as a scout, an "Indian spy," under Capt. George Poage at Clover Lick on the Greenbrier, a post on the track of the Shawnee war parties and of emigrants bound for Kentucky and Ohio.
what
Militia duty at Norfolk
date
c. 1781
place
Norfolk, Virginia
sources
[typescript-norman-descendants-ralph-wanless, book-craig-1963-reverend-john-craig]
note
Drafted from the Calfpasture, he marched to Richmond under Capt. McCoy and served nine months at Norfolk, by his pension declaration of 1832.
father
name
Ralph Wanless
basis
compiled
confidence
possible
sources
[book-craig-1963-reverend-john-craig, online-tree-ellingwood-ancestry]
research
research/hatten/Hatten_Philbrick_Marvin.md
note
His mother's first husband, who died in England before she brought the children to Virginia in 1772 (Craig, from family letters). No record names him; the tree has a Ralph Wanless born 10 Nov 1722 at Newcastle, died about 1772, and a Ralph Wandless was buried at St Andrew's, Newcastle, on 1 June 1770 (Alderman archive).
mother
id
margaret-wanless-d1807
basis
documented
confidence
probable
sources
[book-craig-1963-reverend-john-craig, article-dar-magazine-1914-wanless]
research
research/hatten/Hatten_Philbrick_Marvin.md
note
Her will of 16 Dec 1806 names "my four children Ralph Wandless, Stephen Wandless, Margaret Clayton ... and Mary Armstrong"; Chalkley (II:252) makes Ralph and Stephen Wanless, of Bath County in 1821, her sons.
spouses
id
lucretia-nichols-fl1788
basis
documented
confidence
proven
sources
[article-dar-magazine-1914-wanless, typescript-norman-descendants-ralph-wanless, book-craig-1963-reverend-john-craig]
married
date
30 Sept 1788
place
Augusta County, Virginia
basis
documented
confidence
proven
sources
[article-dar-magazine-1914-wanless]
note
The bond is dated 20 Sept 1788, for Ralph "Wandless" and "Crissey Nickoles," daughter of Levan Nickoles (Chalkley II:308); they married on 30 Sept (II:351). Craig gives 20 Sept as the wedding.

Blacksmith, Revolutionary soldier and settler of the Hills above Huntersville, in what is now Pocahontas County, West Virginia; father of Elizabeth (Wanless) Hatten.

He was born in England. His mother Margaret was left a widow there; by the family's account, written down from her letters by Lillian Kennerly Craig, his father died "after a long illness" just as the family were to sail, the children were bound out to "Masters," and she won them back and brought them to Virginia in 1772, to the Calfpasture at Deerfield, Augusta County (source). That story is family tradition.

He served in the Revolution from the Calfpasture. His pension declaration of 7 Aug 1832, as Chalkley abstracted it, "refers to service at three times, one of them being under Capt. George Poage at Clover Licks" (source). Norman's summary adds that he was drafted under Captain McCoy and discharged at Richmond, was nine months at Norfolk, and served under Captain Buchanan and under George Poage "as an 'Indian spy' at Clover Lick in Bath County" (source).

On 30 Sept 1788 he married Lucretia ("Crissy") Nichols, daughter of Levan Nichols, in Augusta County. From 1794 he is on the personal property tax lists for the part of Bath County that became Pocahontas County, and he lived near Mount Tabor, in the Hills five miles north of Huntersville, until he died in 1842. Price's Historical Sketches of Pocahontas County (1901) remembers the family as smiths: "Most all the Wanless brothers were industrious and skillful workers in iron, acquired from their father, who seems to have been a genius in that line of industry ... When Ralph Wanless and his sons wrought at the anvil and caused the primitive forests to ring with their strong and resonant striking of hammers and sledges, their business was of essential importance" (source). Family memory made him "nearly seven feet tall," and his Clayton nephews called him "Uncle Wandless" (Craig).

Norman lists twelve children: William (1789), Margaret (1789, wife of James Sharp), Lydia (wife of John Vick), Elizabeth (1797, wife of Thomas Hatten), Ralph (1799), Mary "Polly" (1800), James (1801), Ann (1803), Stephen (1805), John (1807), Thomas (1810) and Levan (1813). Rev. James Wanless was a Methodist local preacher who held up John the Baptist against the fashions: "How would John the Baptist have looked in a swallow tailed coat, pointed toed shoes, pipe, whiskey bottle, and stovepipe hat, et cetera!" (Price).

Research: Notable connections of Patricia Hatten (1940-2009): the paternal Hatten line.

Open questions

  • His will (Pocahontas County, 1842) and his pension file (NARA M804) should name his daughters, and would prove Elizabeth Hatten one of them.
  • His father's name: "Ralph" rests on family tradition and the tree.
  • Where he is buried: Craig records two traditions, Pocahontas County and Green Valley, Virginia.
  1. ---
  2. name: Ralph Wanless
  3. aka: [Ralph Wandless]
  4. sex: male
  5. access: public
  6. summary: >-
  7. Blacksmith, Revolutionary soldier and settler of the Hills above Huntersville, in what is now
  8. Pocahontas County, West Virginia, remembered as a genius at the anvil. Born at Newcastle upon Tyne
  9. about 1756-7, he came with his widowed mother to Augusta County, Virginia, in 1772, scouted from
  10. Clover Lick and served at Norfolk in the Revolution, married Lucretia Nichols in 1788 and died in
  11. 1842. Probably the father of Elizabeth (Wanless) Hatten.
  12. born:
  13. date: c. 1756-7
  14. place: Newcastle upon Tyne, England
  15. basis: compiled
  16. confidence: probable
  17. sources: [article-dar-magazine-1914-wanless, typescript-norman-descendants-ralph-wanless, online-tree-ellingwood-ancestry, book-craig-1963-reverend-john-craig]
  18. note: '"a native of England and 75 years old" at his pension declaration of 7 Aug 1832. Norman and the Ancestry tree have 28 Mar 1756 at Newcastle upon Tyne; Craig (1963) "about 1759."'
  19. died:
  20. date: 26 Jul 1842
  21. place: Pocahontas County, Virginia (now West Virginia)
  22. basis: compiled
  23. confidence: probable
  24. sources: [typescript-norman-descendants-ralph-wanless, online-tree-ellingwood-ancestry]
  25. note: The tree's "Pocahontas, Chesterfield, Virginia" means Pocahontas County. Craig (1963) has both 1824 and 1842.
  26. residences:
  27. - date: "1772"
  28. place: Deerfield, Augusta County, Virginia
  29. basis: tradition
  30. confidence: probable
  31. sources: [book-craig-1963-reverend-john-craig]
  32. note: "Brought from England by his widowed mother to the Calfpasture at Deerfield, as a boy of about fifteen."
  33. - date: "1794"
  34. place: Pocahontas County, West Virginia
  35. basis: compiled
  36. confidence: probable
  37. sources: [typescript-norman-descendants-ralph-wanless]
  38. note: "On the personal property tax lists for the part of Bath County that became Pocahontas, from 1794; the Hills near Huntersville."
  39. events:
  40. - what: Indian spy, Clover Lick
  41. date: "c. 1780"
  42. place: Clover Lick, Pocahontas County, West Virginia
  43. sources: [article-dar-magazine-1914-wanless, typescript-norman-descendants-ralph-wanless, book-price-1901-pocahontas-county]
  44. note: "He served as a scout, an \"Indian spy,\" under Capt. George Poage at Clover Lick on the Greenbrier, a post on the track of the Shawnee war parties and of emigrants bound for Kentucky and Ohio."
  45. - what: Militia duty at Norfolk
  46. date: "c. 1781"
  47. place: Norfolk, Virginia
  48. sources: [typescript-norman-descendants-ralph-wanless, book-craig-1963-reverend-john-craig]
  49. note: "Drafted from the Calfpasture, he marched to Richmond under Capt. McCoy and served nine months at Norfolk, by his pension declaration of 1832."
  50. father:
  51. name: Ralph Wanless
  52. basis: compiled
  53. confidence: possible
  54. sources: [book-craig-1963-reverend-john-craig, online-tree-ellingwood-ancestry]
  55. research: research/hatten/Hatten_Philbrick_Marvin.md
  56. note: His mother's first husband, who died in England before she brought the children to Virginia in 1772 (Craig, from family letters). No record names him; the tree has a Ralph Wanless born 10 Nov 1722 at Newcastle, died about 1772, and a Ralph Wandless was buried at St Andrew's, Newcastle, on 1 June 1770 (Alderman archive).
  57. mother:
  58. id: margaret-wanless-d1807
  59. basis: documented
  60. confidence: probable
  61. sources: [book-craig-1963-reverend-john-craig, article-dar-magazine-1914-wanless]
  62. research: research/hatten/Hatten_Philbrick_Marvin.md
  63. note: Her will of 16 Dec 1806 names "my four children Ralph Wandless, Stephen Wandless, Margaret Clayton ... and Mary Armstrong"; Chalkley (II:252) makes Ralph and Stephen Wanless, of Bath County in 1821, her sons.
  64. spouses:
  65. - id: lucretia-nichols-fl1788
  66. basis: documented
  67. confidence: proven
  68. sources: [article-dar-magazine-1914-wanless, typescript-norman-descendants-ralph-wanless, book-craig-1963-reverend-john-craig]
  69. married:
  70. date: 30 Sept 1788
  71. place: Augusta County, Virginia
  72. basis: documented
  73. confidence: proven
  74. sources: [article-dar-magazine-1914-wanless]
  75. note: 'The bond is dated 20 Sept 1788, for Ralph "Wandless" and "Crissey Nickoles," daughter of Levan Nickoles (Chalkley II:308); they married on 30 Sept (II:351). Craig gives 20 Sept as the wedding.'
  76. ---
  77. Blacksmith, Revolutionary soldier and settler of the Hills above Huntersville, in what is now
  78. Pocahontas County, West Virginia; father of [Elizabeth (Wanless) Hatten](/people/elizabeth-wanless-1797/).
  79. He was born in England. His mother Margaret was left a widow there; by the family's account, written
  80. down from her letters by Lillian Kennerly Craig, his father died "after a long illness" just as the
  81. family were to sail, the children were bound out to "Masters," and she won them back and brought them
  82. to Virginia in 1772, to the Calfpasture at Deerfield, Augusta County
  83. ([source](/files/sources/book-craig-1963-reverend-john-craig/)). That story is family tradition.
  84. He served in the Revolution from the Calfpasture. His pension declaration of 7 Aug 1832, as Chalkley
  85. abstracted it, "refers to service at three times, one of them being under Capt. George Poage at
  86. Clover Licks" ([source](/files/sources/article-dar-magazine-1914-wanless/)). Norman's summary adds that he
  87. was drafted under Captain McCoy and discharged at Richmond, was nine months at Norfolk, and served
  88. under Captain Buchanan and under George Poage "as an 'Indian spy' at Clover Lick in Bath County"
  89. ([source](/files/sources/typescript-norman-descendants-ralph-wanless/)).
  90. On 30 Sept 1788 he married [Lucretia ("Crissy") Nichols](/people/lucretia-nichols-fl1788/),
  91. daughter of Levan Nichols, in Augusta County. From 1794 he is on the personal property tax lists for
  92. the part of Bath County that became Pocahontas County, and he lived near Mount Tabor, in the Hills
  93. five miles north of Huntersville, until he died in 1842. Price's *Historical Sketches of Pocahontas
  94. County* (1901) remembers the family as smiths: "Most all the Wanless brothers were industrious and
  95. skillful workers in iron, acquired from their father, who seems to have been a genius in that line of
  96. industry ... When Ralph Wanless and his sons wrought at the anvil and caused the primitive forests to
  97. ring with their strong and resonant striking of hammers and sledges, their business was of essential
  98. importance" ([source](/files/sources/book-price-1901-pocahontas-county/)). Family memory made him "nearly
  99. seven feet tall," and his Clayton nephews called him "Uncle Wandless" (Craig).
  100. Norman lists twelve children: William (1789), Margaret (1789, wife of James Sharp), Lydia (wife of
  101. John Vick), Elizabeth (1797, wife of Thomas Hatten), Ralph (1799), Mary "Polly" (1800), James (1801),
  102. Ann (1803), Stephen (1805), John (1807), Thomas (1810) and Levan (1813). Rev. James Wanless was a
  103. Methodist local preacher who held up John the Baptist against the fashions: "How would John the
  104. Baptist have looked in a swallow tailed coat, pointed toed shoes, pipe, whiskey bottle, and stovepipe
  105. hat, et cetera!" (Price).
  106. Research: `research/hatten/Hatten_Philbrick_Marvin.md`.
  107. ## Open questions
  108. - His will (Pocahontas County, 1842) and his pension file (NARA M804) should name his daughters, and
  109. would prove Elizabeth Hatten one of them.
  110. - His father's name: "Ralph" rests on family tradition and the tree.
  111. - Where he is buried: Craig records two traditions, Pocahontas County and Green Valley, Virginia.
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