Ralph Wanless
Personpeople/ralph-wanless-1756.md
As written
- name
- Ralph Wanless
- aka
- [Ralph Wandless]
- sex
- male
- access
- public
- summary
- Blacksmith, Revolutionary soldier and settler of the Hills above Huntersville, in what is now Pocahontas County, West Virginia, remembered as a genius at the anvil. Born at Newcastle upon Tyne about 1756-7, he came with his widowed mother to Augusta County, Virginia, in 1772, scouted from Clover Lick and served at Norfolk in the Revolution, married Lucretia Nichols in 1788 and died in 1842. Probably the father of Elizabeth (Wanless) Hatten.
- born
- date
- c. 1756-7
- place
- Newcastle upon Tyne, England
- basis
- compiled
- confidence
- probable
- sources
- [article-dar-magazine-1914-wanless, typescript-norman-descendants-ralph-wanless, online-tree-ellingwood-ancestry, book-craig-1963-reverend-john-craig]
- note
- "a native of England and 75 years old" at his pension declaration of 7 Aug 1832. Norman and the Ancestry tree have 28 Mar 1756 at Newcastle upon Tyne; Craig (1963) "about 1759."
- died
- date
- 26 Jul 1842
- place
- Pocahontas County, Virginia (now West Virginia)
- basis
- compiled
- confidence
- probable
- sources
- [typescript-norman-descendants-ralph-wanless, online-tree-ellingwood-ancestry]
- note
- The tree's "Pocahontas, Chesterfield, Virginia" means Pocahontas County. Craig (1963) has both 1824 and 1842.
- residences
- date
- 1772
- place
- Deerfield, Augusta County, Virginia
- basis
- tradition
- confidence
- probable
- sources
- [book-craig-1963-reverend-john-craig]
- note
- Brought from England by his widowed mother to the Calfpasture at Deerfield, as a boy of about fifteen.
- date
- 1794
- place
- Pocahontas County, West Virginia
- basis
- compiled
- confidence
- probable
- sources
- [typescript-norman-descendants-ralph-wanless]
- note
- On the personal property tax lists for the part of Bath County that became Pocahontas, from 1794; the Hills near Huntersville.
- events
- what
- Indian spy, Clover Lick
- date
- c. 1780
- place
- Clover Lick, Pocahontas County, West Virginia
- sources
- [article-dar-magazine-1914-wanless, typescript-norman-descendants-ralph-wanless, book-price-1901-pocahontas-county]
- note
- He served as a scout, an "Indian spy," under Capt. George Poage at Clover Lick on the Greenbrier, a post on the track of the Shawnee war parties and of emigrants bound for Kentucky and Ohio.
- what
- Militia duty at Norfolk
- date
- c. 1781
- place
- Norfolk, Virginia
- sources
- [typescript-norman-descendants-ralph-wanless, book-craig-1963-reverend-john-craig]
- note
- Drafted from the Calfpasture, he marched to Richmond under Capt. McCoy and served nine months at Norfolk, by his pension declaration of 1832.
- father
- name
- Ralph Wanless
- basis
- compiled
- confidence
- possible
- sources
- [book-craig-1963-reverend-john-craig, online-tree-ellingwood-ancestry]
- research
- research/hatten/Hatten_Philbrick_Marvin.md
- note
- His mother's first husband, who died in England before she brought the children to Virginia in 1772 (Craig, from family letters). No record names him; the tree has a Ralph Wanless born 10 Nov 1722 at Newcastle, died about 1772, and a Ralph Wandless was buried at St Andrew's, Newcastle, on 1 June 1770 (Alderman archive).
- mother
- id
- margaret-wanless-d1807
- basis
- documented
- confidence
- probable
- sources
- [book-craig-1963-reverend-john-craig, article-dar-magazine-1914-wanless]
- research
- research/hatten/Hatten_Philbrick_Marvin.md
- note
- Her will of 16 Dec 1806 names "my four children Ralph Wandless, Stephen Wandless, Margaret Clayton ... and Mary Armstrong"; Chalkley (II:252) makes Ralph and Stephen Wanless, of Bath County in 1821, her sons.
- spouses
- id
- lucretia-nichols-fl1788
- basis
- documented
- confidence
- proven
- sources
- [article-dar-magazine-1914-wanless, typescript-norman-descendants-ralph-wanless, book-craig-1963-reverend-john-craig]
- married
- date
- 30 Sept 1788
- place
- Augusta County, Virginia
- basis
- documented
- confidence
- proven
- sources
- [article-dar-magazine-1914-wanless]
- note
- The bond is dated 20 Sept 1788, for Ralph "Wandless" and "Crissey Nickoles," daughter of Levan Nickoles (Chalkley II:308); they married on 30 Sept (II:351). Craig gives 20 Sept as the wedding.
Blacksmith, Revolutionary soldier and settler of the Hills above Huntersville, in what is now Pocahontas County, West Virginia; father of Elizabeth (Wanless) Hatten.
He was born in England. His mother Margaret was left a widow there; by the family's account, written down from her letters by Lillian Kennerly Craig, his father died "after a long illness" just as the family were to sail, the children were bound out to "Masters," and she won them back and brought them to Virginia in 1772, to the Calfpasture at Deerfield, Augusta County (source). That story is family tradition.
He served in the Revolution from the Calfpasture. His pension declaration of 7 Aug 1832, as Chalkley abstracted it, "refers to service at three times, one of them being under Capt. George Poage at Clover Licks" (source). Norman's summary adds that he was drafted under Captain McCoy and discharged at Richmond, was nine months at Norfolk, and served under Captain Buchanan and under George Poage "as an 'Indian spy' at Clover Lick in Bath County" (source).
On 30 Sept 1788 he married Lucretia ("Crissy") Nichols, daughter of Levan Nichols, in Augusta County. From 1794 he is on the personal property tax lists for the part of Bath County that became Pocahontas County, and he lived near Mount Tabor, in the Hills five miles north of Huntersville, until he died in 1842. Price's Historical Sketches of Pocahontas County (1901) remembers the family as smiths: "Most all the Wanless brothers were industrious and skillful workers in iron, acquired from their father, who seems to have been a genius in that line of industry ... When Ralph Wanless and his sons wrought at the anvil and caused the primitive forests to ring with their strong and resonant striking of hammers and sledges, their business was of essential importance" (source). Family memory made him "nearly seven feet tall," and his Clayton nephews called him "Uncle Wandless" (Craig).
Norman lists twelve children: William (1789), Margaret (1789, wife of James Sharp), Lydia (wife of John Vick), Elizabeth (1797, wife of Thomas Hatten), Ralph (1799), Mary "Polly" (1800), James (1801), Ann (1803), Stephen (1805), John (1807), Thomas (1810) and Levan (1813). Rev. James Wanless was a Methodist local preacher who held up John the Baptist against the fashions: "How would John the Baptist have looked in a swallow tailed coat, pointed toed shoes, pipe, whiskey bottle, and stovepipe hat, et cetera!" (Price).
Research: Notable connections of Patricia Hatten (1940-2009): the paternal Hatten line.
Open questions
- His will (Pocahontas County, 1842) and his pension file (NARA M804) should name his daughters, and would prove Elizabeth Hatten one of them.
- His father's name: "Ralph" rests on family tradition and the tree.
- Where he is buried: Craig records two traditions, Pocahontas County and Green Valley, Virginia.
---name: Ralph Wanlessaka: [Ralph Wandless]sex: maleaccess: publicsummary: >-Blacksmith, Revolutionary soldier and settler of the Hills above Huntersville, in what is nowPocahontas County, West Virginia, remembered as a genius at the anvil. Born at Newcastle upon Tyneabout 1756-7, he came with his widowed mother to Augusta County, Virginia, in 1772, scouted fromClover Lick and served at Norfolk in the Revolution, married Lucretia Nichols in 1788 and died in1842. Probably the father of Elizabeth (Wanless) Hatten.born:date: c. 1756-7place: Newcastle upon Tyne, Englandbasis: compiledconfidence: probablesources: [article-dar-magazine-1914-wanless, typescript-norman-descendants-ralph-wanless, online-tree-ellingwood-ancestry, book-craig-1963-reverend-john-craig]note: '"a native of England and 75 years old" at his pension declaration of 7 Aug 1832. Norman and the Ancestry tree have 28 Mar 1756 at Newcastle upon Tyne; Craig (1963) "about 1759."'died:date: 26 Jul 1842place: Pocahontas County, Virginia (now West Virginia)basis: compiledconfidence: probablesources: [typescript-norman-descendants-ralph-wanless, online-tree-ellingwood-ancestry]note: The tree's "Pocahontas, Chesterfield, Virginia" means Pocahontas County. Craig (1963) has both 1824 and 1842.residences:- date: "1772"place: Deerfield, Augusta County, Virginiabasis: traditionconfidence: probablesources: [book-craig-1963-reverend-john-craig]note: "Brought from England by his widowed mother to the Calfpasture at Deerfield, as a boy of about fifteen."- date: "1794"place: Pocahontas County, West Virginiabasis: compiledconfidence: probablesources: [typescript-norman-descendants-ralph-wanless]note: "On the personal property tax lists for the part of Bath County that became Pocahontas, from 1794; the Hills near Huntersville."events:- what: Indian spy, Clover Lickdate: "c. 1780"place: Clover Lick, Pocahontas County, West Virginiasources: [article-dar-magazine-1914-wanless, typescript-norman-descendants-ralph-wanless, book-price-1901-pocahontas-county]note: "He served as a scout, an \"Indian spy,\" under Capt. George Poage at Clover Lick on the Greenbrier, a post on the track of the Shawnee war parties and of emigrants bound for Kentucky and Ohio."- what: Militia duty at Norfolkdate: "c. 1781"place: Norfolk, Virginiasources: [typescript-norman-descendants-ralph-wanless, book-craig-1963-reverend-john-craig]note: "Drafted from the Calfpasture, he marched to Richmond under Capt. McCoy and served nine months at Norfolk, by his pension declaration of 1832."father:name: Ralph Wanlessbasis: compiledconfidence: possiblesources: [book-craig-1963-reverend-john-craig, online-tree-ellingwood-ancestry]research: research/hatten/Hatten_Philbrick_Marvin.mdnote: His mother's first husband, who died in England before she brought the children to Virginia in 1772 (Craig, from family letters). No record names him; the tree has a Ralph Wanless born 10 Nov 1722 at Newcastle, died about 1772, and a Ralph Wandless was buried at St Andrew's, Newcastle, on 1 June 1770 (Alderman archive).mother:id: margaret-wanless-d1807basis: documentedconfidence: probablesources: [book-craig-1963-reverend-john-craig, article-dar-magazine-1914-wanless]research: research/hatten/Hatten_Philbrick_Marvin.mdnote: Her will of 16 Dec 1806 names "my four children Ralph Wandless, Stephen Wandless, Margaret Clayton ... and Mary Armstrong"; Chalkley (II:252) makes Ralph and Stephen Wanless, of Bath County in 1821, her sons.spouses:- id: lucretia-nichols-fl1788basis: documentedconfidence: provensources: [article-dar-magazine-1914-wanless, typescript-norman-descendants-ralph-wanless, book-craig-1963-reverend-john-craig]married:date: 30 Sept 1788place: Augusta County, Virginiabasis: documentedconfidence: provensources: [article-dar-magazine-1914-wanless]note: 'The bond is dated 20 Sept 1788, for Ralph "Wandless" and "Crissey Nickoles," daughter of Levan Nickoles (Chalkley II:308); they married on 30 Sept (II:351). Craig gives 20 Sept as the wedding.'---Blacksmith, Revolutionary soldier and settler of the Hills above Huntersville, in what is nowPocahontas County, West Virginia; father of [Elizabeth (Wanless) Hatten](/people/elizabeth-wanless-1797/).He was born in England. His mother Margaret was left a widow there; by the family's account, writtendown from her letters by Lillian Kennerly Craig, his father died "after a long illness" just as thefamily were to sail, the children were bound out to "Masters," and she won them back and brought themto Virginia in 1772, to the Calfpasture at Deerfield, Augusta County([source](/files/sources/book-craig-1963-reverend-john-craig/)). That story is family tradition.He served in the Revolution from the Calfpasture. His pension declaration of 7 Aug 1832, as Chalkleyabstracted it, "refers to service at three times, one of them being under Capt. George Poage atClover Licks" ([source](/files/sources/article-dar-magazine-1914-wanless/)). Norman's summary adds that hewas drafted under Captain McCoy and discharged at Richmond, was nine months at Norfolk, and servedunder Captain Buchanan and under George Poage "as an 'Indian spy' at Clover Lick in Bath County"([source](/files/sources/typescript-norman-descendants-ralph-wanless/)).On 30 Sept 1788 he married [Lucretia ("Crissy") Nichols](/people/lucretia-nichols-fl1788/),daughter of Levan Nichols, in Augusta County. From 1794 he is on the personal property tax lists forthe part of Bath County that became Pocahontas County, and he lived near Mount Tabor, in the Hillsfive miles north of Huntersville, until he died in 1842. Price's *Historical Sketches of PocahontasCounty* (1901) remembers the family as smiths: "Most all the Wanless brothers were industrious andskillful workers in iron, acquired from their father, who seems to have been a genius in that line ofindustry ... When Ralph Wanless and his sons wrought at the anvil and caused the primitive forests toring with their strong and resonant striking of hammers and sledges, their business was of essentialimportance" ([source](/files/sources/book-price-1901-pocahontas-county/)). Family memory made him "nearlyseven feet tall," and his Clayton nephews called him "Uncle Wandless" (Craig).Norman lists twelve children: William (1789), Margaret (1789, wife of James Sharp), Lydia (wife ofJohn Vick), Elizabeth (1797, wife of Thomas Hatten), Ralph (1799), Mary "Polly" (1800), James (1801),Ann (1803), Stephen (1805), John (1807), Thomas (1810) and Levan (1813). Rev. James Wanless was aMethodist local preacher who held up John the Baptist against the fashions: "How would John theBaptist have looked in a swallow tailed coat, pointed toed shoes, pipe, whiskey bottle, and stovepipehat, et cetera!" (Price).Research: `research/hatten/Hatten_Philbrick_Marvin.md`.## Open questions- His will (Pocahontas County, 1842) and his pension file (NARA M804) should name his daughters, andwould prove Elizabeth Hatten one of them.- His father's name: "Ralph" rests on family tradition and the tree.- Where he is buried: Craig records two traditions, Pocahontas County and Green Valley, Virginia.