Margaret Wanless

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name
Margaret Wanless
aka
[Margaret Carlile, Margaret Carlisle, Margaret Wandless, Margaret Adams]
sex
female
access
public
summary
Probably the mother of Ralph Wanless of Pocahontas County, and so a grandmother of Elizabeth (Wanless) Hatten. By family tradition she was widowed near Newcastle upon Tyne just as the family was to sail, worked her passage, and in 1772 settled with her four children at Deerfield, Augusta County, Virginia. As a widow Wanless she married John Carlile, and she died at Deerfield in 1807.
died
date
25 Aug 1807
place
Deerfield, Augusta County, Virginia
basis
compiled
confidence
probable
sources
[online-tree-ellingwood-ancestry, book-craig-1963-reverend-john-craig]
note
The tree's date. Her will, dated 16 Dec 1806, was recorded in 1807 (Chalkley's abstract), and Craig says she was buried at Deerfield in an unmarked grave.
residences
date
1772
place
Deerfield, Augusta County, Virginia
basis
tradition
confidence
probable
sources
[book-craig-1963-reverend-john-craig]
note
Brought her four children from England and settled on the Calfpasture at Deerfield, on Thomas Adams's land.
spouses
name
Ralph Wanless
basis
compiled
confidence
possible
sources
[book-craig-1963-reverend-john-craig, online-tree-ellingwood-ancestry]
note
Her first husband and the father of her four children, said to have been a widower with two sons, living near Newcastle upon Tyne; he died in England before the family sailed. His first name is family tradition.
name
John Carlile
basis
documented
confidence
probable
sources
[article-dar-magazine-1914-wanless, book-craig-1963-reverend-john-craig]
note
Of the Calfpasture (Deerfield). She was "a widow Wanless when she married John Carlisle" (Chalkley II:252). His will is dated 15 June 1796 (Chalkley III:209).

Mother of Ralph Wanless of Pocahontas County. As "Margaret Carlile of Augusta County ... being at present far advanced in years" she made her will on 16 Dec 1806. She left her granddaughter Elizabeth Black "as much money as will purchase her a good black gown," and the rest of her estate to be "equally divided between my four children Ralph Wandless, Stephen Wandless, Margaret Clayton, wife of John Clayton, and Mary Armstrong, wife of Abel Armstrong," each accounting for what they had already had: "Ralph Wandless is to account for twenty dollars that he received from me" (source). Chalkley's abstracts of the Augusta records call her "a widow Wanless when she married John Carlisle" (source).

Her maiden name is uncertain. "All family records give her maiden name as Adams, a sister of Thomas Adams, except one branch which gives it as Wiley," Craig wrote; the tree has her as Margaret Wiley Adams, born 1720 at Newcastle. Craig's account of her, taken from her letters, which have not been seen here, is family tradition. Educated in England, she married there a widower named Ralph Wandless and lived near Newcastle upon Tyne. He died after a long illness just as they were to sail for America, and her children were bound out to "Masters" until Thomas Adams's agent helped her get them back. She worked her passage looking after other families' children ("They were worse than my own!") and in 1772 settled with her four at Deerfield, on Thomas Adams's land: "I have my children alone to myself at last!" In 1784 she wrote, "I called all within traveling distance to come last week to talk about books, and the writers of them." She later married John Carlile, who died in 1796, and spent her last years with her daughter Margaret's family, the Claytons. A descendant called her "The Perfect Mother" (source).

Research: Notable connections of Patricia Hatten (1940-2009): the paternal Hatten line.

Open questions

  • Her maiden name (Adams, or Wiley, perhaps as a widow) and her first husband's name.
  1. ---
  2. name: Margaret Wanless
  3. aka: [Margaret Carlile, Margaret Carlisle, Margaret Wandless, Margaret Adams]
  4. sex: female
  5. access: public
  6. summary: >-
  7. Probably the mother of Ralph Wanless of Pocahontas County, and so a grandmother of Elizabeth
  8. (Wanless) Hatten. By family tradition she was widowed near Newcastle upon Tyne just as the family
  9. was to sail, worked her passage, and in 1772 settled with her four children at Deerfield, Augusta
  10. County, Virginia. As a widow Wanless she married John Carlile, and she died at Deerfield in 1807.
  11. died:
  12. date: 25 Aug 1807
  13. place: Deerfield, Augusta County, Virginia
  14. basis: compiled
  15. confidence: probable
  16. sources: [online-tree-ellingwood-ancestry, book-craig-1963-reverend-john-craig]
  17. note: The tree's date. Her will, dated 16 Dec 1806, was recorded in 1807 (Chalkley's abstract), and Craig says she was buried at Deerfield in an unmarked grave.
  18. residences:
  19. - date: "1772"
  20. place: Deerfield, Augusta County, Virginia
  21. basis: tradition
  22. confidence: probable
  23. sources: [book-craig-1963-reverend-john-craig]
  24. note: "Brought her four children from England and settled on the Calfpasture at Deerfield, on Thomas Adams's land."
  25. spouses:
  26. - name: Ralph Wanless
  27. basis: compiled
  28. confidence: possible
  29. sources: [book-craig-1963-reverend-john-craig, online-tree-ellingwood-ancestry]
  30. note: Her first husband and the father of her four children, said to have been a widower with two sons, living near Newcastle upon Tyne; he died in England before the family sailed. His first name is family tradition.
  31. - name: John Carlile
  32. basis: documented
  33. confidence: probable
  34. sources: [article-dar-magazine-1914-wanless, book-craig-1963-reverend-john-craig]
  35. note: Of the Calfpasture (Deerfield). She was "a widow Wanless when she married John Carlisle" (Chalkley II:252). His will is dated 15 June 1796 (Chalkley III:209).
  36. ---
  37. Mother of [Ralph Wanless](/people/ralph-wanless-1756/) of Pocahontas County. As "Margaret Carlile of
  38. Augusta County ... being at present far advanced in years" she made her will on 16 Dec 1806. She left
  39. her granddaughter Elizabeth Black "as much money as will purchase her a good black gown," and the rest
  40. of her estate to be "equally divided between my four children Ralph Wandless, Stephen Wandless,
  41. Margaret Clayton, wife of John Clayton, and Mary Armstrong, wife of Abel Armstrong," each accounting
  42. for what they had already had: "Ralph Wandless is to account for twenty dollars that he received from
  43. me" ([source](/files/sources/book-craig-1963-reverend-john-craig/)). Chalkley's abstracts of the Augusta
  44. records call her "a widow Wanless when she married John Carlisle"
  45. ([source](/files/sources/article-dar-magazine-1914-wanless/)).
  46. Her maiden name is uncertain. "All family records give her maiden name as Adams, a sister of Thomas
  47. Adams, except one branch which gives it as Wiley," Craig wrote; the tree has her as Margaret Wiley
  48. Adams, born 1720 at Newcastle. Craig's account of her, taken from her letters, which have not been
  49. seen here, is family tradition. Educated in England, she married there a widower named Ralph
  50. Wandless and lived near Newcastle upon Tyne. He died after a long illness just as they were to sail
  51. for America, and her children were bound out to "Masters" until Thomas Adams's agent helped her get
  52. them back. She worked her passage looking after other families' children ("They were worse than my
  53. own!") and in 1772 settled with her four at Deerfield, on Thomas Adams's land: "I have my children
  54. alone to myself at last!" In 1784 she wrote, "I called all within traveling distance to come last week
  55. to talk about books, and the writers of them." She later married John Carlile, who died in 1796, and
  56. spent her last years with her daughter Margaret's family, the Claytons. A descendant called her "The
  57. Perfect Mother" ([source](/files/sources/book-craig-1963-reverend-john-craig/)).
  58. Research: `research/hatten/Hatten_Philbrick_Marvin.md`.
  59. ## Open questions
  60. - Her maiden name (Adams, or Wiley, perhaps as a widow) and her first husband's name.
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