Mary Bate

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name
Mary Bate
aka
[Marie Bate, Mary Foster]
sex
female
access
public
summary
Wife of Capt. Hopestill Foster of Dorchester, and probably the mother of John Foster, Boston's early printer and engraver, and of the younger Hopestill Foster, who married Elizabeth Payson. Probably a daughter of James and Alice Bate, she came from Lydd, Kent, in 1635, aged 17, and died in 1702/3, aged 84.
born
date
c. 1618
basis
documented
confidence
probable
sources
[book-savage-genealogical-dictionary]
note
"Marie, 17" on a 1635 passenger list; aged 84 at her death in 1702/3.
died
date
4 or 5 Jan 1702/3
basis
documented
confidence
proven
note
Aged 84, from her tombstone. Mollie gives this death, as 30 Jan 1702/3, to Patience (Bigg) Foster.
residences
date
bef. 1635
place
Lydd, Kent, England
basis
compiled
confidence
probable
sources
[article-nehgr-51-bate-of-lydd]
note
She came from Lydd, where the Lydd register has her baptism.
date
1635
place
Dorchester, Massachusetts
basis
compiled
confidence
probable
sources
[church-records-first-church-dorchester]
note
Among the early women members of the Dorchester church.
events
what
Sailed on the Elizabeth
date
17 Apr 1635
place
London, England
sources
[passenger-list-elizabeth-1635]
note
"Marie, 17," with her parents and her brother and sisters.
father
id
james-bate-fl1635
basis
compiled
confidence
probable
sources
[book-savage-genealogical-dictionary]
research
research/low/Low_Line_Research.md
note
Savage (1:138), "Mary m. Hopestill Foster"; the 1635 passenger list; and John Baker's will naming "his wife's uncle Bates."
mother
id
alice-bate-fl1635
basis
compiled
confidence
probable
sources
[book-savage-genealogical-dictionary]

Wife of Capt. Hopestill Foster of Dorchester, and mother of John Foster (1648-1681), Boston's early printer and engraver. She came from Lydd, Kent, with her parents on the Elizabeth in 1635, as "Marie Bate, 17." "mary Bate" is listed with "Alice Bate" and "Lydia Bate" among the early women members of the Dorchester church (Records of the First Church at Dorchester).

Watkins's Bate pedigree, from the Lydd register, gives her baptism at Lydd on 21 Nov 1619 (NEHGR 51:270). That fits "Marie, 17" in April 1635 and her age of 84 at death only roughly.

If her grandmother Mary (Martin) Bate was a sister of Rachel (Martin) Bigg, as WikiTree has it (Foster-1884, citing Whitmore), Mary and her husband were second cousins: she a granddaughter of Mary (Martin) Bate, he a grandson of Rachel (Martin) Bigg. That link is unproven; Watkins queries the Martin surname ("Mary Martine(?)"). The families were kin in some degree: John Bigg's will calls her father "My cousin James Bate of New England" (Waters, Gleanings 1:22).

Open questions

  • Her baptism: the colonial tree gives 21 Nov 1619 at Lydd (Watkins); the page keeps c. 1618, from her ages in 1635 and at death. In the same pedigree Watkins gives the identical baptism date, 21 Nov 1619, to a Mary daughter of Thomas Bate (b. 1596), so one of the two entries may be misplaced.
  1. ---
  2. name: Mary Bate
  3. aka: [Marie Bate, Mary Foster]
  4. sex: female
  5. access: public
  6. summary: >-
  7. Wife of Capt. Hopestill Foster of Dorchester, and probably the mother of John Foster, Boston's
  8. early printer and engraver, and of the younger Hopestill Foster, who married Elizabeth Payson.
  9. Probably a daughter of James and Alice Bate, she came from Lydd, Kent, in 1635, aged 17, and died
  10. in 1702/3, aged 84.
  11. born:
  12. date: c. 1618
  13. basis: documented
  14. confidence: probable
  15. sources: [book-savage-genealogical-dictionary]
  16. note: "\"Marie, 17\" on a 1635 passenger list; aged 84 at her death in 1702/3."
  17. died:
  18. date: 4 or 5 Jan 1702/3
  19. basis: documented
  20. confidence: proven
  21. note: Aged 84, from her tombstone. Mollie gives this death, as 30 Jan 1702/3, to Patience (Bigg) Foster.
  22. residences:
  23. - date: "bef. 1635"
  24. place: Lydd, Kent, England
  25. basis: compiled
  26. confidence: probable
  27. sources: [article-nehgr-51-bate-of-lydd]
  28. note: "She came from Lydd, where the Lydd register has her baptism."
  29. - date: "1635"
  30. place: Dorchester, Massachusetts
  31. basis: compiled
  32. confidence: probable
  33. sources: [church-records-first-church-dorchester]
  34. note: "Among the early women members of the Dorchester church."
  35. events:
  36. - what: Sailed on the Elizabeth
  37. date: "17 Apr 1635"
  38. place: London, England
  39. sources: [passenger-list-elizabeth-1635]
  40. note: "\"Marie, 17,\" with her parents and her brother and sisters."
  41. father:
  42. id: james-bate-fl1635
  43. basis: compiled
  44. confidence: probable
  45. sources: [book-savage-genealogical-dictionary]
  46. research: research/low/Low_Line_Research.md
  47. note: Savage (1:138), "Mary m. Hopestill Foster"; the 1635 passenger list; and John Baker's will naming "his wife's uncle Bates."
  48. mother:
  49. id: alice-bate-fl1635
  50. basis: compiled
  51. confidence: probable
  52. sources: [book-savage-genealogical-dictionary]
  53. ---
  55. Wife of Capt. Hopestill Foster of Dorchester, and mother of John Foster (1648-1681),
  56. Boston's early printer and engraver. She came from Lydd, Kent, with her parents on the
  57. *Elizabeth* in 1635, as "Marie Bate, 17." "mary Bate" is listed with "Alice Bate" and
  58. "Lydia Bate" among the early women members of the Dorchester church (Records of the First
  59. Church at Dorchester).
  61. Watkins's Bate pedigree, from the Lydd register, gives her baptism at Lydd on 21 Nov 1619
  62. (NEHGR 51:270). That fits "Marie, 17" in April 1635 and her age of 84 at death only
  63. roughly.
  65. If her grandmother Mary (Martin) Bate was a sister of Rachel (Martin) Bigg, as WikiTree
  66. has it (Foster-1884, citing Whitmore), Mary and her husband were second cousins: she a
  67. granddaughter of Mary (Martin) Bate, he a grandson of Rachel (Martin) Bigg. That link is
  68. unproven; Watkins queries the Martin surname ("Mary Martine(?)"). The families were kin in
  69. some degree: John Bigg's will calls her father "My cousin James Bate of New England"
  70. (Waters, *Gleanings* 1:22).
  72. ## Open questions
  74. - Her baptism: the colonial tree gives 21 Nov 1619 at Lydd (Watkins); the page keeps c. 1618,
  75. from her ages in 1635 and at death. In the same pedigree Watkins gives the identical
  76. baptism date, 21 Nov 1619, to a Mary daughter of Thomas Bate (b. 1596), so one of the two
  77. entries may be misplaced.
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