John Flynn

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name
John Flynn
aka
[John Flyn, John Flinn]
sex
male
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public
summary
Father, with his wife Anne Murray, of James Murray Flynn, baptized at Emily Township in 1847. Born in Ireland about 1801-1802, he was very probably the John Flyn, 24, of Mallow, Co. Cork, who came out on the Brunswick in 1825 with William Flyn, probably his father, among the Peter Robinson settlers, and was located on lot 11, concession 10, Emily, where he was still farming in 1851.
born
date
c. 1801-2
place
Co. Cork, Ireland
basis
documented
confidence
probable
sources
[census-1851-emily-flynn, census-1861-emily-flynn, passenger-list-brunswick-1825]
note
50 at his next birthday in January 1852 and 60 in January 1861, born in Ireland; 24 in May 1825 and of Mallow, Co. Cork, if he is the John Flyn of the Brunswick.
died
date
8 Mar 1863
basis
compiled
confidence
possible
sources
[online-tree-ellingwood-ancestry]
residences
date
24 Nov 1825
place
Emily Township, Victoria County, Canada West
basis
documented
confidence
proven
sources
[index-ontario-land-records-flynn-emily]
note
Located on a half-lot of concession 10, lot 11, Emily Township.
events
what
Sailed on the Brunswick
date
11 May 1825
place
Cobh, County Cork, Ireland
sources
[passenger-list-brunswick-1825]
note
Embarked at Cove of Cork with the Peter Robinson settlers; the ship sailed at 5 am on 11 May.
what
Landed at Quebec
date
12 Jun 1825
place
Quebec, Canada
sources
[journal-surgeon-brunswick-1825]
note
The emigrants went on by steamboat to Montreal and up the St. Lawrence by bateaux.
what
Camped at Peterborough
date
Sep 1825
place
Peterborough, Ontario
note
The 1825 Robinson settlers camped at Peterborough from September to November before their lots were handed out.
father
id
william-flynn-1765
basis
inferred
confidence
probable
sources
[passenger-list-brunswick-1825, index-ontario-land-records-flynn-emily, typescript-stephenson-1995-emily-township, census-1851-emily-flynn]
research
research/dwyer/Flynns_of_Emily_Township.md
note
William Flyn, 60, of Mallow, came with a son John, 24, on the Brunswick in 1825. William and John were located on the two halves of lot 11, concession 10, Emily, and in 1846 John Flynn of Emily took over William's half through the Heir and Devisee Commission. No record seen says in words that John was William's son; the 1846 claim papers would.
spouses
id
ann-murray-1809
basis
documented
confidence
proven
sources
[record-ontario-flynn-1847-1861]

Father of James Murray Flynn, named with his wife Anne Murray in James's baptism at Emily Township, 1847 (record).

He is very probably the John Flyn, 24, who came out from Cove of Cork on the Brunswick in May 1825 with William Flyn, 60, a "reduced farmer" of Mallow, and Daniel, Mary, Johanna and Nancy, among the Peter Robinson settlers (source). He was on the surgeon's sick list for three days in June (source). On 24 November 1825 William was located on the north half of lot 11, concession 10, Emily Township, John on the south half, and Daniel on the north half of lot 10, concession 9 (source). The township's assessment that year has a household of six on John's half-lot, which fits the family of the Brunswick; William died in Emily in 1826 (source). John's half-lot was confirmed to him in 1834, and in January 1846 John Flynn of Emily took over William's half through the Heir and Devisee Commission.

The family was away from the lot about 1840, when their daughter Mary was born in the United States. In the census of 1851 (taken January 1852) John Flynn, 50, farmer, born in Ireland, Roman Catholic, is in Emily with Ann, 38, and William, 18, John, 16, Mary, 12, Elizabeth, 6, James, 4, and Margaret, 2 (source); the abstract of that year's farm returns puts him on lot 11, concession 10, with 50 acres cleared. In 1861 John Flinn, 60, is there with Ann, William, Mary, Eliza, James and Margaret (source). The censuses give no relationships, so the children other than James are his and Ann's by inference. Emily had no resident priest until 1851; Mass was said in settlers' houses by priests from Peterborough and, from 1840, Lindsay.

Daniel Flynn's half-lot, concession 9, lot 10, was still held by his family in 1921 (source).

Open questions

  • The Heir and Devisee Commission claim for the north half of lot 11, concession 10 (January 1846; RG 1 C-I-3, vol. 92, p. 5; claim papers at the Archives of Ontario, RG 40), which would say how he was William's successor; and his land petitions of 1842 and 1846.
  • Where the family was about 1840, when Mary was born in the United States.
  • His death: 8 March 1863 in the Ancestry tree, with no record seen. The family, or part of it, went to the United States after 1861.
  1. ---
  2. name: John Flynn
  3. aka: [John Flyn, John Flinn]
  4. sex: male
  5. access: public
  6. summary: >-
  7. Father, with his wife Anne Murray, of James Murray Flynn, baptized at Emily Township in 1847. Born
  8. in Ireland about 1801-1802, he was very probably the John Flyn, 24, of Mallow, Co. Cork, who came
  9. out on the Brunswick in 1825 with William Flyn, probably his father, among the Peter Robinson
  10. settlers, and was located on lot 11, concession 10, Emily, where he was still farming in 1851.
  11. born:
  12. date: c. 1801-2
  13. place: Co. Cork, Ireland
  14. basis: documented
  15. confidence: probable
  16. sources: [census-1851-emily-flynn, census-1861-emily-flynn, passenger-list-brunswick-1825]
  17. note: 50 at his next birthday in January 1852 and 60 in January 1861, born in Ireland; 24 in May 1825 and of Mallow, Co. Cork, if he is the John Flyn of the Brunswick.
  18. died:
  19. date: 8 Mar 1863
  20. basis: compiled
  21. confidence: possible
  22. sources: [online-tree-ellingwood-ancestry]
  23. residences:
  24. - date: "24 Nov 1825"
  25. place: Emily Township, Victoria County, Canada West
  26. basis: documented
  27. confidence: proven
  28. sources: [index-ontario-land-records-flynn-emily]
  29. note: "Located on a half-lot of concession 10, lot 11, Emily Township."
  30. events:
  31. - what: Sailed on the Brunswick
  32. date: "11 May 1825"
  33. place: Cobh, County Cork, Ireland
  34. sources: [passenger-list-brunswick-1825]
  35. note: "Embarked at Cove of Cork with the Peter Robinson settlers; the ship sailed at 5 am on 11 May."
  36. - what: Landed at Quebec
  37. date: "12 Jun 1825"
  38. place: Quebec, Canada
  39. sources: [journal-surgeon-brunswick-1825]
  40. note: "The emigrants went on by steamboat to Montreal and up the St. Lawrence by bateaux."
  41. - what: Camped at Peterborough
  42. date: "Sep 1825"
  43. place: Peterborough, Ontario
  44. note: "The 1825 Robinson settlers camped at Peterborough from September to November before their lots were handed out."
  45. father:
  46. id: william-flynn-1765
  47. basis: inferred
  48. confidence: probable
  49. sources: [passenger-list-brunswick-1825, index-ontario-land-records-flynn-emily, typescript-stephenson-1995-emily-township, census-1851-emily-flynn]
  50. research: research/dwyer/Flynns_of_Emily_Township.md
  51. note: William Flyn, 60, of Mallow, came with a son John, 24, on the Brunswick in 1825. William and John were located on the two halves of lot 11, concession 10, Emily, and in 1846 John Flynn of Emily took over William's half through the Heir and Devisee Commission. No record seen says in words that John was William's son; the 1846 claim papers would.
  52. spouses:
  53. - id: ann-murray-1809
  54. basis: documented
  55. confidence: proven
  56. sources: [record-ontario-flynn-1847-1861]
  57. ---
  58. Father of James Murray Flynn, named with his wife Anne Murray in James's baptism at Emily Township,
  59. 1847 ([record](/files/sources/record-ontario-flynn-1847-1861/)).
  60. He is very probably the John Flyn, 24, who came out from Cove of Cork on the *Brunswick* in May 1825
  61. with William Flyn, 60, a "reduced farmer" of Mallow, and Daniel, Mary, Johanna and Nancy, among the
  62. Peter Robinson settlers ([source](/files/sources/passenger-list-brunswick-1825/)). He was on the surgeon's
  63. sick list for three days in June ([source](/files/sources/journal-surgeon-brunswick-1825/)). On 24 November
  64. 1825 William was located on the north half of lot 11, concession 10, Emily Township, John on the south
  65. half, and Daniel on the north half of lot 10, concession 9 ([source](/files/sources/index-ontario-land-records-flynn-emily/)).
  66. The township's assessment that year has a household of six on John's half-lot, which fits the family
  67. of the *Brunswick*; William died in Emily in 1826 ([source](/files/sources/typescript-stephenson-1995-emily-township/)).
  68. John's half-lot was confirmed to him in 1834, and in January 1846 John Flynn of Emily took over
  69. William's half through the Heir and Devisee Commission.
  70. The family was away from the lot about 1840, when their daughter Mary was born in the United States.
  71. In the census of 1851 (taken January 1852) John Flynn, 50, farmer, born in Ireland, Roman Catholic, is
  72. in Emily with Ann, 38, and William, 18, John, 16, Mary, 12, Elizabeth, 6, James, 4, and Margaret, 2
  73. ([source](/files/sources/census-1851-emily-flynn/)); the abstract of that year's farm returns puts him on
  74. lot 11, concession 10, with 50 acres cleared. In 1861 John Flinn, 60, is there with Ann, William,
  75. Mary, Eliza, James and Margaret ([source](/files/sources/census-1861-emily-flynn/)). The censuses give no
  76. relationships, so the children other than James are his and Ann's by inference. Emily had no
  77. resident priest until 1851; Mass was said in settlers' houses by priests from Peterborough and,
  78. from 1840, Lindsay.
  79. Daniel Flynn's half-lot, concession 9, lot 10, was still held by his family in 1921
  80. ([source](/files/sources/book-kirkconnell-1921-victoria-county/)).
  81. ## Open questions
  82. - The Heir and Devisee Commission claim for the north half of lot 11, concession 10 (January 1846;
  83. RG 1 C-I-3, vol. 92, p. 5; claim papers at the Archives of Ontario, RG 40), which would say how he
  84. was William's successor; and his land petitions of 1842 and 1846.
  85. - Where the family was about 1840, when Mary was born in the United States.
  86. - His death: 8 March 1863 in the Ancestry tree, with no record seen. The family, or part of it, went
  87. to the United States after 1861.
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