John Collins

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name
John Collins
aka
[John Collins Sr., Jno. Collens]
sex
male
access
public
summary
Probably a son of Thomas Collins, with whom he was taxed in Orange County, North Carolina, in 1755 as a "Molata." In 1777 he took the oath of allegiance with Capt. John Cox's company, and he was on the 1782 Montgomery County tax list. Possibly the father of Meredith Collins.
born
date
c. 1736
basis
compiled
confidence
possible
sources
[book-heinegg-2021-free-african-americans]
note
Heinegg's "b. say 1736," an estimate, which may not fit the John of the 1751 and 1771 records (see below).
residences
date
1755
place
Orange County, North Carolina
basis
documented
confidence
probable
sources
[tax-list-1755-orange-county-nc]
note
Taxed with Thomas as a "Molata" on one Black tithe.
date
1782
place
Montgomery County, Virginia
basis
documented
confidence
probable
sources
[book-kegley-1975-militia-montgomery-county]
note
Took the oath of allegiance with Capt. John Cox's company in 1777 and was on the 1782 Montgomery County tax list.
father
id
thomas-collins-1700
basis
compiled
confidence
probable
sources
[book-heinegg-2021-free-african-americans, article-blackburn-1998-one-more-mountain-to-cross, tax-list-1755-orange-county-nc]
note
Taxed with Thomas as "Molata" in 1755. One of Heinegg's four probable sons of Thomas; Blackburn's "John Collins Sr. ... son of old Thomas."

One of the two candidates for Meredith Collins's father, and the one the book Molata leans to. Taxed in Orange County, North Carolina, in 1755 as a "Molata" on one Black tithe. Probably the John Collins farming on Peach Bottom Creek of the New River by 1767 [?]. In 1771 his household in Botetourt County, Virginia, had four tithes, the largest of the Collins households; on the 1773 delinquent list marked "Indian Lands." "Jno. Collens" took the oath of allegiance with Capt. John Cox's company in the fall of 1777, beside "Samuel Collens" and William and John Riddle. On the 1782 Montgomery County tax list.

The early New River researchers called Meredith "probably son of John Collins Sr." and Lewis Collins (b. 1754) "son of John"; Lewis stands beside Meredith on McDaniel's company list. Grayson County tax records suggest Lewis and James Collins were sons of the Peach Bottom Creek John.

His wife is unknown. She may have been a daughter of Moses Riddle, born about 1740, who would be the right age [?].

Open questions

  • One John or two? A John Collins held land on the Rocky Branch of the Flat River by 1751, and the 1771 Botetourt John had three other tithes (males over 16), both hard to fit a man born about 1736. There may have been an elder John (possibly the John Collins among the men the Orange County, Virginia, court called Indians in January 1742/43) as well as Thomas's son John. This file follows the master tree, which treats them as one man.
  • Was his wife a daughter of Moses Riddle?
  1. ---
  2. name: John Collins
  3. aka: [John Collins Sr., Jno. Collens]
  4. sex: male
  5. access: public
  6. summary: >-
  7. Probably a son of Thomas Collins, with whom he was taxed in Orange County, North Carolina, in
  8. 1755 as a "Molata." In 1777 he took the oath of allegiance with Capt. John Cox's company, and he
  9. was on the 1782 Montgomery County tax list. Possibly the father of Meredith Collins.
  10. born:
  11. date: c. 1736
  12. basis: compiled
  13. confidence: possible
  14. sources: [book-heinegg-2021-free-african-americans]
  15. note: Heinegg's "b. say 1736," an estimate, which may not fit the John of the 1751 and 1771 records (see below).
  16. residences:
  17. - date: "1755"
  18. place: Orange County, North Carolina
  19. basis: documented
  20. confidence: probable
  21. sources: [tax-list-1755-orange-county-nc]
  22. note: "Taxed with Thomas as a \"Molata\" on one Black tithe."
  23. - date: "1782"
  24. place: Montgomery County, Virginia
  25. basis: documented
  26. confidence: probable
  27. sources: [book-kegley-1975-militia-montgomery-county]
  28. note: "Took the oath of allegiance with Capt. John Cox's company in 1777 and was on the 1782 Montgomery County tax list."
  29. father:
  30. id: thomas-collins-1700
  31. basis: compiled
  32. confidence: probable
  33. sources: [book-heinegg-2021-free-african-americans, article-blackburn-1998-one-more-mountain-to-cross, tax-list-1755-orange-county-nc]
  34. note: Taxed with Thomas as "Molata" in 1755. One of Heinegg's four probable sons of Thomas; Blackburn's "John Collins Sr. ... son of old Thomas."
  35. ---
  36. One of the two candidates for Meredith Collins's father, and the one the book *Molata*
  37. leans to. Taxed in Orange County, North Carolina, in 1755 as a "Molata" on one Black
  38. tithe. Probably the John Collins farming on Peach Bottom Creek of the New River by
  39. 1767 [?]. In 1771 his household in Botetourt County, Virginia, had four tithes, the
  40. largest of the Collins households; on the 1773 delinquent list marked "Indian Lands."
  41. "Jno. Collens" took the oath of allegiance with Capt. John Cox's company in the fall of
  42. 1777, beside "Samuel Collens" and William and John Riddle. On the 1782 Montgomery
  43. County tax list.
  44. The early New River researchers called Meredith "probably son of John Collins Sr."
  45. and Lewis Collins (b. 1754) "son of John"; Lewis stands beside Meredith on McDaniel's
  46. company list. Grayson County tax records suggest Lewis and James Collins were sons of
  47. the Peach Bottom Creek John.
  48. His wife is unknown. She may have been a daughter of Moses Riddle, born about 1740, who
  49. would be the right age [?].
  50. ## Open questions
  51. - **One John or two?** A John Collins held land on the Rocky Branch of the Flat River
  52. by 1751, and the 1771 Botetourt John had three other tithes (males over 16), both hard
  53. to fit a man born about 1736. There may have been an elder John (possibly the John
  54. Collins among the men the Orange County, Virginia, court called Indians in January
  55. 1742/43) as well as Thomas's son John. This file follows the master tree, which treats
  56. them as one man.
  57. - Was his wife a daughter of Moses Riddle?
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