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The Collins and Reed Line
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Two free families of color, carried west from Virginia
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Charles City County, Virginia
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c. 1673
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Virginia
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c. 1700
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thomas-collins-1700
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Flat River, North Carolina
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1755
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thomas-collins-1700
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Rowan County, North Carolina
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1786
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hugh-reed-d1786
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Ashe County, North Carolina
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1810
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james-reed-1766
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Floyd County, Kentucky
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1810
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meredith-collins-1760
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Clay County, Kentucky
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1827
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mary-reed-1804
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Morgan County, Indiana
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1830
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jesse-collins-1804
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Appanoose County, Iowa
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1850
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mary-reed-1804
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Mercer County, Missouri
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1860
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mary-collins-1827
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Siloam Springs, Arkansas
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1887
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mary-collins-1827

Two free families of color from the Virginia Piedmont, whom census takers counted white, free colored, slave and mulatto by turns. Thomas Collins was taxed as "Molata" on the Flat River of North Carolina in 1755; his people settled beyond the colony's line on the New River by the 1770s and were carried west through Russell County, Virginia, and the Big Sandy country to Clay County, Kentucky. The Reeds, whose founder William Read was called "Malatta" in Charles City County, Virginia, about 1673, came out of the New River country of Ashe County, North Carolina, to Clay County too. There Jesse Collins married Mary Reed in December 1827, probably on the same day her brother Stephen married, and the families went on together to the Reed settlement near Martinsville, Morgan County, Indiana, and to Missouri and Appanoose County, Iowa. Their daughter Mary Elizabeth "Polly" Collins married into the Bruner family in 1850, and her line runs on through the Bruners and the Cliffords to the Holbrooks.

The line walks up through every ancestor of Mary Elizabeth Collins: the Collinses through her father, the Reeds through her mother, Mary Reed.

The line at a glance

The Collinses: Thomas Collins "Molata" (c. 1700 - c. 1770) > John Collins (c. 1736) [or his brother Samuel] > Meredith Collins (c. 1760 - 1841) > Jesse Collins (c. 1804 - 1847) = Mary Reed > Mary Elizabeth "Polly" Collins (1827 - 1887) = Eli Woodruff Bruner > Mariah Emma Bruner = John Marshall Clifford > Jessie Lorene Clifford = Capt. Richard Blackmer Holbrook Jr. > Richard Clifford Holbrook > Frances Fairchild Holbrook

The Reeds: William Read "Malatta" (b. c. 1673, Charles City Co, Virginia) [?] > ... several generations not traced ... > Hugh Reed Sr. (d. bef. the end of 1786, Rowan Co, North Carolina) [?] > James Reed (b. c. 1766-75; d. bef. 6 Jan 1845, Morgan Co, Indiana [or c. 1841, Clay Co, Kentucky]) = Susannah, maiden name unknown > Mary Reed (c. 1804 - c. 1852) = Jesse Collins

The weakest links

  • John or Samuel > Meredith (possible either way): no document names Meredith's father. The book Molata leans to John, whose son Lewis stood beside Meredith on McDaniel's company list; Heinegg groups most of the New River men under Samuel. Thomas is Meredith's grandfather either way.
  • Thomas > John (probable): Heinegg's probable son. There may have been two Johns.
  • Meredith > Jesse (probable): no record names Jesse's father; his age, Meredith's 1810 household and his brother Hiram's witnessing of his consent note make him Meredith's son by Polly Holloway. The older chain Meredith > Bradley > Jesse is withdrawn.
  • Jesse and Mary Reed > Mary Elizabeth (the research calls it resolved): no record yet seen names her parents.
  • Which James Reed. James Read's 1827 consent note proves he was Mary's father. Where he died is open: in Clay County about 1841 (the Clay reading, resting only on the Attride compilation's 1841 estate), or in Morgan County, Indiana, before his will was recorded on 6 January 1845 (the Morgan reading). The Reed addendum leans to the Morgan reading, and the files record his death that way, but it is not proven. The children named in the Morgan County will and land records (Elisha, John or James, Naaman) are his only under that reading; Samuel and William, from the 1841 Clay estate, only under the other.
  • James > Hugh Reed Sr. (possible): the Attride compilation alone. A James named at the 1786 estate sale is not shown to be a son, and the 1783 Rowan grant needs a James born by about 1762, older than ours.
  • Hugh > William Read (possible): Heinegg lists James and Stephen Reed of Ashe County among the "other members of the Reed family" without parents. No generation between is traced.
  • Mary's mother. James's wife was born about 1770-80 and was counted white in 1830. Her given name, Susannah, comes from a Morgan County land transfer reported by JoEllen Reed and holds only under the Morgan reading. The Hollingsworth maiden name in online trees is unsupported.

Where the line ends

The Collins side stops at Thomas Collins. Nothing is known of his parents, and the FamilySearch graft onto a Thomas Collins of Hampshire, England, is rejected.

The Reed side walks up from Mary through her father. It reaches James and then Hugh Reed Sr., whom only the Attride compilation names as James's father. William Read, whom Heinegg treats as the founder of the free colored Reed family, has a scope of his own because no parent-child links connect him to Hugh or James; he is the line's possible root, not a proven ancestor. Stephen Reed Sr. of Ashe County (b. c. 1748), a probable older generation of the same family whose relationship to James is unknown, is outside the scope; his file and his children's are there for when that question is answered.

Mary Reed's brothers and sisters

Only Mary is proven James's child. Elizabeth (m. Hiram Collins 1829) and Stephen (m. Nancy Powell the same day as Mary's wedding) are probable; Randolph, Benjamin, Tilford and Sarah Reid (Bradley Collins's partner) possible; Naaman, Elisha and John [or James] are his under the Morgan reading, Samuel and William under the Clay reading. Patsy Reed (m. James Hollinsworth 1822), once listed as a sister, is more likely a cousin, a daughter of Stephen Reed Jr.

Open questions

  • Meredith's father: a Montgomery County tithable list of the late 1770s showing a teenage Meredith in someone's household would settle it.
  • The wives of Thomas and of Meredith's father; whether a daughter of Moses Riddle was Meredith's mother.
  • Meredith's first wife, mother of Bradley.
  • Eula Conley's DAR application and its 25 supporting documents.
  • Jesse's and Mary's graves in Appanoose County, and the 1850 marriage record of Eli Bruner and Mary Elizabeth.
  • Which James? The tests are ranked in the Reed addendum, section 12: the 1850 Morgan County census for his widow; JoEllen Reed's copies of the will, the land transfer naming Susannah, and any purchase deed; Deed Book J, p. 522 and James's purchase deed for the SW quarter of Section 17 (FamilySearch film 1468446, not online); the Morgan County probate order book, 1822-1847; and the 1841 Clay estate file.
  • Is the will's second son John or James?
  • Susannah's maiden name.
  • Was James a son of Hugh Reed Sr., or of Stephen Reed Sr.? Stephen Sr's Ashe estate (c. 1812) and the 1802 James-to-Stephen deed may say.
  • The generations between William Read and the Ashe County Reeds. A Y-DNA test of a male-line Reed descendant of James would help.
  1. ---
  2. title: The Collins and Reed Line
  3. access: public
  4. main: true
  5. scope:
  6. - from: mary-collins-1827
  7. follow: all
  8. - from: william-read-1673
  9. follow: father
  10. research: [research/collins-reed/, research/bruner/]
  11. tagline: Two free families of color, carried west from Virginia
  12. # Where the line went, oldest first: the places it lived, when, and who was there.
  13. route:
  14. - place: "Charles City County, Virginia"
  15. when: "c. 1673"
  16. who: william-read-1673
  17. - place: "Virginia"
  18. when: "c. 1700"
  19. who: thomas-collins-1700
  20. - place: "Flat River, North Carolina"
  21. when: "1755"
  22. who: thomas-collins-1700
  23. - place: "Rowan County, North Carolina"
  24. when: "1786"
  25. who: hugh-reed-d1786
  26. - place: "Ashe County, North Carolina"
  27. when: "1810"
  28. who: james-reed-1766
  29. - place: "Floyd County, Kentucky"
  30. when: "1810"
  31. who: meredith-collins-1760
  32. - place: "Clay County, Kentucky"
  33. when: "1827"
  34. who: mary-reed-1804
  35. - place: "Morgan County, Indiana"
  36. when: "1830"
  37. who: jesse-collins-1804
  38. - place: "Appanoose County, Iowa"
  39. when: "1850"
  40. who: mary-reed-1804
  41. - place: "Mercer County, Missouri"
  42. when: "1860"
  43. who: mary-collins-1827
  44. - place: "Siloam Springs, Arkansas"
  45. when: "1887"
  46. who: mary-collins-1827
  47. ---
  48. Two free families of color from the Virginia Piedmont, whom census takers counted white, free
  49. colored, slave and mulatto by turns. Thomas Collins was taxed as "Molata" on the Flat River of
  50. North Carolina in 1755; his people settled beyond the colony's line on the New River by the 1770s
  51. and were carried west through Russell County, Virginia, and the Big Sandy country to Clay County,
  52. Kentucky. The Reeds, whose founder William Read was called "Malatta" in Charles City County,
  53. Virginia, about 1673, came out of the New River country of Ashe County, North Carolina, to Clay
  54. County too. There Jesse Collins married Mary Reed in December 1827, probably on the same day her
  55. brother Stephen married, and the families went on together to the Reed settlement near
  56. Martinsville, Morgan County, Indiana, and to Missouri and Appanoose County, Iowa. Their daughter
  57. Mary Elizabeth "Polly" Collins married into the Bruner family in 1850, and her line runs on through
  58. the Bruners and the Cliffords to the Holbrooks.
  59. The line walks up through every ancestor of Mary Elizabeth Collins: the Collinses through her
  60. father, the Reeds through her mother, Mary Reed.
  61. ## The line at a glance
  62. The Collinses: Thomas Collins "Molata" (c. 1700 - c. 1770) > John Collins (c. 1736) [or his brother
  63. Samuel] > Meredith Collins (c. 1760 - 1841) > Jesse Collins (c. 1804 - 1847) = Mary Reed >
  64. Mary Elizabeth "Polly" Collins (1827 - 1887) = Eli Woodruff Bruner > Mariah Emma Bruner =
  65. John Marshall Clifford > Jessie Lorene Clifford = Capt. Richard Blackmer Holbrook Jr. >
  66. Richard Clifford Holbrook > Frances Fairchild Holbrook
  67. The Reeds: William Read "Malatta" (b. c. 1673, Charles City Co, Virginia) [?] > ... several
  68. generations not traced ... > Hugh Reed Sr. (d. bef. the end of 1786, Rowan Co, North
  69. Carolina) [?] > James Reed (b. c. 1766-75; d. bef. 6 Jan 1845, Morgan Co, Indiana [or
  70. c. 1841, Clay Co, Kentucky]) = Susannah, maiden name unknown > Mary Reed (c. 1804 -
  71. c. 1852) = Jesse Collins
  72. ## The weakest links
  73. - **John or Samuel > Meredith** (possible either way): no document names Meredith's
  74. father. The book *Molata* leans to John, whose son Lewis stood beside Meredith on
  75. McDaniel's company list; Heinegg groups most of the New River men under Samuel. Thomas
  76. is Meredith's grandfather either way.
  77. - **Thomas > John** (probable): Heinegg's probable son. There may have been two Johns.
  78. - **Meredith > Jesse** (probable): no record names Jesse's father; his age, Meredith's
  79. 1810 household and his brother Hiram's witnessing of his consent note make him
  80. Meredith's son by Polly Holloway. The older chain Meredith > Bradley > Jesse is
  81. withdrawn.
  82. - **Jesse and Mary Reed > Mary Elizabeth** (the research calls it resolved): no record
  83. yet seen names her parents.
  84. - **Which James Reed.** James Read's 1827 consent note proves he was Mary's father. Where
  85. he died is open: in Clay County about 1841 (the Clay reading, resting only on the
  86. Attride compilation's 1841 estate), or in Morgan County, Indiana, before his will was
  87. recorded on 6 January 1845 (the Morgan reading). The Reed addendum leans to the Morgan
  88. reading, and the files record his death that way, but it is not proven. The children
  89. named in the Morgan County will and land records (Elisha, John or James, Naaman) are his
  90. only under that reading; Samuel and William, from the 1841 Clay estate, only under the
  91. other.
  92. - **James > Hugh Reed Sr.** (possible): the Attride compilation alone. A James named at
  93. the 1786 estate sale is not shown to be a son, and the 1783 Rowan grant needs a James
  94. born by about 1762, older than ours.
  95. - **Hugh > William Read** (possible): Heinegg lists James and Stephen Reed of Ashe County
  96. among the "other members of the Reed family" without parents. No generation between is
  97. traced.
  98. - **Mary's mother.** James's wife was born about 1770-80 and was counted white in 1830.
  99. Her given name, Susannah, comes from a Morgan County land transfer reported by JoEllen
  100. Reed and holds only under the Morgan reading. The Hollingsworth maiden name in online
  101. trees is unsupported.
  102. ## Where the line ends
  103. The Collins side stops at Thomas Collins. Nothing is known of his parents, and the
  104. FamilySearch graft onto a Thomas Collins of Hampshire, England, is rejected.
  105. The Reed side walks up from Mary through her father. It reaches James and then Hugh Reed Sr.,
  106. whom only the Attride compilation names as James's father. William Read, whom Heinegg
  107. treats as the founder of the free colored Reed family, has a scope of his own because
  108. no parent-child links connect him to Hugh or James; he is the line's possible root, not a
  109. proven ancestor. Stephen Reed Sr. of Ashe County (b. c. 1748), a probable older generation
  110. of the same family whose relationship to James is unknown, is outside the scope; his file
  111. and his children's are there for when that question is answered.
  112. ## Mary Reed's brothers and sisters
  113. Only Mary is proven James's child. Elizabeth (m. Hiram Collins 1829) and Stephen (m.
  114. Nancy Powell the same day as Mary's wedding) are probable; Randolph, Benjamin, Tilford and
  115. Sarah Reid (Bradley Collins's partner) possible; Naaman, Elisha and John [or James] are his
  116. under the Morgan reading, Samuel and William under the Clay reading. Patsy Reed (m. James
  117. Hollinsworth 1822), once listed as a sister, is more likely a cousin, a daughter of
  118. Stephen Reed Jr.
  119. ## Open questions
  120. - Meredith's father: a Montgomery County tithable list of the late 1770s showing a
  121. teenage Meredith in someone's household would settle it.
  122. - The wives of Thomas and of Meredith's father; whether a daughter of Moses Riddle was
  123. Meredith's mother.
  124. - Meredith's first wife, mother of Bradley.
  125. - Eula Conley's DAR application and its 25 supporting documents.
  126. - Jesse's and Mary's graves in Appanoose County, and the 1850 marriage record of Eli
  127. Bruner and Mary Elizabeth.
  128. - Which James? The tests are ranked in the Reed addendum, section 12: the 1850 Morgan
  129. County census for his widow; JoEllen Reed's copies of the will, the land transfer naming
  130. Susannah, and any purchase deed; Deed Book J, p. 522 and James's purchase deed for the
  131. SW quarter of Section 17 (FamilySearch film 1468446, not online); the Morgan County
  132. probate order book, 1822-1847; and the 1841 Clay estate file.
  133. - Is the will's second son John or James?
  134. - Susannah's maiden name.
  135. - Was James a son of Hugh Reed Sr., or of Stephen Reed Sr.? Stephen Sr's Ashe estate
  136. (c. 1812) and the 1802 James-to-Stephen deed may say.
  137. - The generations between William Read and the Ashe County Reeds. A Y-DNA test of a
  138. male-line Reed descendant of James would help.
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